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Michael
09-24-2007, 10:31 PM
Hi all,

I thought i would just post some pics of my little friends. My camera is broken right now so these pics are a bit old.

My first, and favorite tarantula, E. pachypus female (females have the large back legs unlike the males of this species which look completely different)
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8863/closeupsi1.jpg

My Red Trapdoor spider, Gorgyrella sp. (i know, not much to look at but they have an attitude beyond belief)
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5049/cimg0095ft0.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4564/cimg0096ic1.jpg

and my little G. rosea enjoying a waxworm
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3467/cimg0232sc9.jpg

that's all for now, i'll get pics of my other spiders and my scorpions when i get my camera fixed/get a new one

EDIT: I guess the title should have said "Pics of my spiders" as the trapdoor is not a tarantula, it's a true spider.

Ghost147
09-25-2007, 10:02 AM
awsome pictures. just to clarify, tarantulas are not spiders, but whats a few big differences from them?

animalover
09-25-2007, 10:56 AM
Cool pics. Once I figure out how to get pics up here from my Mac I will put up our tarantulas. We got a couple of beauties!!

bean
09-25-2007, 11:25 AM
i'm sorry I am so freaking scared of spiders it's not even funny... that made me want to cry!

Michael
09-25-2007, 12:59 PM
awsome pictures. just to clarify, tarantulas are not spiders, but whats a few big differences from them?

well, some of the main differences between true spiders and tarantulas are:
Tarantulas have 2 pairs of book lungs while true spiders have only 1

Tarantulas have an "eye mound" on top of the carapace while true spiders generally have their eyes spread out across their "face", for the most part.

also, a characteristic that only new world tarantulas have are urticating hairs on their abdomen that they will kick in self-defence, but old world tarantulas do not have these hairs.

those are a few of many differences.

I also found a couple pics of my P. regalis, enjoy!
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4887/dsc02455jv5.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8303/dsc02470gz1.jpg

EDIT: I thought i would add a picture of a jumping spider i found to show you a different eye formation, this is a jumper that i couldn't ID down to the species, i believe it is Phidippus cryptus but since i can't be sure, lets just call it Phidippus sp.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4716/image2kl8.jpg

Ghost147
09-25-2007, 01:19 PM
cool, thanks! now for bite questions? i heard the theres maybe around 50 out of around 1500 scorpions that the venom can be lethal to humans, whats the ratio for tarantulas and spiders? and the difference between a true spider and a... not true spider :)

Michael
09-25-2007, 02:01 PM
cool, thanks! now for bite questions? i heard the theres maybe around 50 out of around 1500 scorpions that the venom can be lethal to humans, whats the ratio for tarantulas and spiders? and the difference between a true spider and a... not true spider :)


That ratio for scorps sounds about right but when it comes to tarantulas (800-900 known species) there are a grand total of 0 that are lethal to humans, there has yet to be a reported case of a fatality from a tarantula bite. there are some species (such as my P. regalis) that can cause severe effects to human but nothing that will kill you/make you blind/paralyze you. the worst after effects you might get are muscle cramping and tenderness around the area of the bit for a while after.as for true spiders, there are a few that are lethal to humans such as some black/brown widows and brown recluse, i don't know the actual statistics off hand but there aren't all that many. i do know that out of all black widow bites about 2/3 are dry bites (no venom) and out of all bites where venom is actually released, maybe 1% are fatal and most of those are in smaller children.

to the best of my knowledge, spiders are either grouped as Tarantulas or true spiders, no others.

Ghost147
09-25-2007, 02:03 PM
ah ok thanks. but as with scorpions, would people with allergies to bees have a worse effect from a tarantula bite? that could lead to a fatality?

Michael
09-25-2007, 02:22 PM
ah ok thanks. but as with scorpions, would people with allergies to bees have a worse effect from a tarantula bite? that could lead to a fatality?

as far as i know that would not be the case as bee venom and tarantula venom have completely different chemical makeups, i don't know the specifics but i did see it mentioned somewhere that the proteins in tarantula venom are extremely rare to have allergies to, that's not to say it's impossible. if you do have alergies to bees or are usually more sensitive to venoms, it's probably best to avoid being bitten, better safe than sorry.

i was able to pull up a very interesting discussion form the American Tarantula Society forums reguarding fatalites form scorpion stings, here is the link, it makes for a very interesting read (scroll down to post#7 for all the good stuff)
http://atshq.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12341

Ghost147
09-25-2007, 09:59 PM
awsome, thanks!

kitchengod
09-25-2007, 10:04 PM
ewww nasty creature those are . i hate bugs spiders, yuk ahhhhhhhhhhh.

Neil
09-25-2007, 10:18 PM
My L. parahybana
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/snakeneil/Picture005.jpg

animalover
09-25-2007, 10:20 PM
Aw! She is a beauty! It is a girl right! Looks like it from what I can tell.
If I am wrong tell him I am sorry:(

Neil
09-25-2007, 10:33 PM
She was a girl unfortunatly she died ,I have no idea why.I was pretty upset over that one.
Heres a pic of my B. Smithi.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/snakeneil/Picture039.jpg

animalover
09-25-2007, 10:57 PM
WOW! I have a B. smithi as well but she is tiny! Only about the size of a loonie. I know we have no way of knowing if it is a girl but I call her a girl cause she is so pretty. I gotta figure out how to get pics up here. LOL

Michael
09-26-2007, 07:32 PM
I love the B. smithi, i've been meaning to get one but...well, i just haven't yet, but it's on my to get list:)

I have an L. parahybana as well but it is still tiny in comparison to yours, i got it as a second instar and it is now 4th instar looking like it may molt soon. I hope you like big T's because these can give T. blondies a run for their money but you probably alreay know that, what others do you have?

oh, i also found a pic of my L. parahybana when i first got it, I love them when their just little fuzz butts! (in this pic, it is no bigger that you pinky finger nail)
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/9389/cimg0069dy2.jpg

animalover
09-26-2007, 09:57 PM
My B. smithi was a bit bigger than that when we got her at the spring show. My fiance has a Honduran curly hair (don't know the scientific name of the top of my head, Mat does). He is getting another (I think 2) at the show on Saturaday!! O man we can't wait. We have been talking about it for months and now it is only 2 days away!! YAY!! I really gotta figure out how to get pics on here.

animalover
09-26-2007, 10:09 PM
Here is my girl! Shipton Spud. (Hope this works)
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd52/samzynn/P9160231.jpg
So I hope this goes to photobucket. Can't figure out how to get the pic here, sorry:(

joeysgreen
09-26-2007, 10:12 PM
/Users/skullz/Desktop/ship.jpg

I tried fixing your picture but you'll need a proper image code. It looks like you're trying to post a picture right from your computer. You'll first need to bring your picture online, and then link it to the forum. I use photobucket.com. It's free, and self explanatory.

Ian

animalover
09-26-2007, 10:32 PM
Sorry dude! Ya I kinda suck at this:( I figured out how to get a link (i think thats what you call it) to my photobucket.
It's in the thread above yours.

Neil
09-26-2007, 11:02 PM
Here's your photo.http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd52/samzynn/P9160231.jpg

animalover
09-26-2007, 11:09 PM
Huh, I clearly have a lot to learn:(

Neil
09-26-2007, 11:11 PM
If you click on the little yellow photo looking thing above place where you type your message then just paste the web address of the photo you want to show.

animalover
09-26-2007, 11:13 PM
OOOOOhhh! Sorry. I just got my computer 6 months ago and I don't venture far off of searching the net. I just google:)
Thanks!

cburte
09-27-2007, 09:31 AM
heres a pic of my girlfriend's B. Smithi
she is so gorgeous! i love her! julie is scared of her though...
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/Guitar_lixx/pets/DSC00096.jpg

animalover
09-27-2007, 12:57 PM
What a beauty!! I am scared of mine right now only cause she is super fast!! So Mat holds her for now!LOL I can't wait till she gets bigger!

Michael
09-27-2007, 03:41 PM
My B. smithi was a bit bigger than that when we got her at the spring show. My fiance has a Honduran curly hair (don't know the scientific name of the top of my head, Mat does). He is getting another (I think 2) at the show on Saturaday!! O man we can't wait. We have been talking about it for months and now it is only 2 days away!! YAY!! I really gotta figure out how to get pics on here.

Honduran curly hair = Brachyplema albopilosum

Although i have no brachy's yet, i love their coloration, especially the smithi and it's bonus that they're docile, for the most part. keep the pics coming, i like to see what everyone owns!

Neil
10-01-2007, 01:18 PM
Can I make a humble suggestion? Scientific names make me work ,if it's not something I'm familiar with I have to look up the common name.How about putting it up when you post.Just a suggestion.
Neil

Michael
10-01-2007, 05:10 PM
Can I make a humble suggestion? Scientific names make me work ,if it's not something I'm familiar with I have to look up the common name.How about putting it up when you post.Just a suggestion.
Neil

certainly, i will make sure i do that when i post from now on. the only thing wrong with common names in tarantulas is that many different species of tarantulas may share a very similar common name (in some cases the same name) and wrong info may be given due to this, some even have many different common names which leads to lots of confusion.

if you are interested, here is a list of my inverts with both common and scientific name (in case you had trouble finding any):

E. pachypus - stout-leg baboon
P. murinus - Usambara starburst baboon (also known as OBT - orange baboon tarantula)
L. parahybana - Brazilian salmon pink birdeater
H. maculata - togo ornamental baboon
G. rosea - chilean rose hair
P. regalis - Indian ornamental (i think)
Gorgyrella sp. - african red trapdoor spider
H. paucidens - olive kneeled flat rock scorpion
H. spinifer - Asian forest scorpion

Neil
10-01-2007, 05:41 PM
Thanks, there were a couple there I couldn't find.I reaize the problems with common names,same thing applies to a lesser extent with snakes.For us that are new to T's or at least memory challenged (me) common names are what we're familiar with.
By the way I pocked up a L. parahybana - Brazilian salmon pink birdeater to replace the one that I lost and a l.klugi - Scarlet Birdeater at the show.I also jumped on the Goliath birdeater that Jamie posted ,I'll pick it up tomorrow.Gee now that I put both names up It seems kinda lame.(some guys are never happy!)

animalover
10-01-2007, 05:52 PM
I was wondering who was gonna pick up the bird eater! Mat wanted it of course but I got him the Avicularia avicularia. We pick her up tomorrow evening.:D

Michael
10-01-2007, 06:24 PM
also if your curious about the suffixes tacked on to the end of common names, i'll explain that a wee bit.

In africa they call tarantulas baboon spiders hence the baboon suffix attached to Old world african species.

Ornamental is given to Old World arboreal species from india and shri lanka(see my H. mac, Common name is Togo Ornamental baboon, Old world african arboreal)

In lots of south american countries they call tarantulas bird spiders and that is why Birdeater is added as a suffix, not just because of their sheer size.

you will sometimes see tree spider tacked onto the end of some common names, these are arboreal species that inhabit rainforests.

i'm sure there are a couple more but that might clear a few things up in case anyone was wondering "why is it called a baboon?"

joeysgreen
10-01-2007, 09:48 PM
The word tarantula itself is a bit of a common name at best. In North America, it's to describe pretty much any big hairy spider. It's different in Europe. I think if it's asigned to any specific family it's mygalomorphidae... I've probably spelled that wrong, it's been a while.

Ian

Neil
10-01-2007, 10:21 PM
I had a pink toe once.watch it if you handle it they tend to jump out of your hand and can injure themselves easily.

animalover
10-01-2007, 11:15 PM
Thanks Neil! I won't be holding her cause I don't have a ton of experience with the tarantulas like Mat does. Plus I only hold the very docile ones. The pink toe is outa my league. They can be a little skiddish I have been reading.
We can't wait to meet the new one though! :)